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Re: Mapping Challenge

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:58 pm
by Gdamatov77
smiteo wrote:here's what I built a while back...
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it is a bit too clunky to work well... but it was fun to build...
is that thing near the revo logo a shaft for holding a pencil? if so, i would like to buy one off of u, cause that is what i am hoping to use to map out my puzzles from here on out.

Re: Mapping Challenge

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:13 pm
by smiteo
Sorry, Gabi.... the mapper doesn't work well enough to give it away, much less sell it... You're better off figuring another system to map...

Cheers,
Derek

Re: Mapping Challenge

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:05 pm
by Jez
Hi All,

I have been in and out of the forums for some time now. I received a Bronze for Christmas and on boxing day fell into the pool...I am still drowning! :(

From what I can tell the best method for finding a way out is mapping but I have been having some serious problems drawing a map.

I got very excited when I saw this topic as I thought I might get a nice guide on how to draw a map but all I can see is that people are very talented at 3d computer modelling and building plastic moulded cases so I would ask if anyone has any tips for drawing a map for a 3d maze with a pen and paper...something simple?

At the moment I am drawing a simple channel with walls but not really drawing the shelves / jumps as I don't know how to best represent it.

So far my maps are terrible and I am still splashing in the pool :|

Thanks for your help
Jez

Re: Mapping Challenge

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:57 pm
by TheJuggler
Hi Jez,

Sounds like you've started the right way. The best method I've used is to use colours for heights ... I prefer green for the maze, red for resets and I've taken to using purple for ledges. (While really they should be green as it is maze path, it seems to help with my visualisation.)

The other thing I have done is used shading to represent changes in height such as ramps. For example the ramp onto the start of the maze from the start position.

Hopefully that gives you some ideas.

Neil

Re: Mapping Challenge

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:18 pm
by Jez
Thanks, sounds like it's worth spending a lot of time creating detailed maps. I like the idea of using colours to show the heights, should make it easier to see what is above what.

This may sound a little silly but I was using a pen previously :oops: and clearly pencil with a heavy amount of rubbing out and reworking is the way forward ;)

Thanks again,

Jez

Re: Mapping Challenge

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:40 pm
by cdr2289
Jez wrote:Thanks, sounds like it's worth spending a lot of time creating detailed maps. I like the idea of using colours to show the heights, should make it easier to see what is above what.

This may sound a little silly but I was using a pen previously :oops: and clearly pencil with a heavy amount of rubbing out and reworking is the way forward ;)

Thanks again,

Jez
For all my puzzles i start with just a scribbly simple pencil drawing, then once i've explored all the obvious nooks and crannys, i do a pencil, ruler, graph paper drawing... has worked so far. Now for the silver I wouldn't have got through without blue masking tape and a magic marker, as well as a blown up graph paper with pencil markings. The 2 in concert is what got me through the final bits.

Re: Mapping Challenge

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:49 pm
by Jez
Wow!

I guess as the puzzles get more and more complex then more detailed maps are required.

I better get drawing :)

Re: Mapping Challenge

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:50 pm
by TheJuggler
Jez wrote:Wow!

I guess as the puzzles get more and more complex then more detailed maps are required.

I better get drawing :)
They do, but as you progress through each puzzle, your mapping gets better too, so you should be fine.

Re: Mapping Challenge

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:46 pm
by Stigy
Yep. And don't overlook the value of a ruler. These things need to be accurate in order for you to be able to look at you map and draw conclusions about where you must be able to go.

Re: Mapping Challenge

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:16 pm
by Jehrets2
I didn't draw maps for both blue and green, but I have a feeling I will with the bronze :? so last night I practiced mapping on green a little by putting a sharpie mark on the shaft then moving it, then measuring. I ended up mapping the first half without taking the puzzle apart, but on the *tricky bit* I needed to cheat a little :oops: