I've never not received an item I've purchased from Chris, so this isn't about a preorder complaint. I don't mind waiting... but I just spent the $ to purchase my 3 puzzles for the year. Had I realized there were going to be 5 puzzles, I would have budgeted my $ differently. Besides, whats the point of buying voyager, if you cant buy the voyager puzzles?redlaymerej wrote:I am a college student and have budgeted money for 3 puzzles a year. There is no way that I could pay $800 for two puzzles...
R2 Limited Editions
- ReVoRabbit
- Posts: 1383
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:51 pm
- Location: The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
- Contact:
Re: R2 Limited Editions
Last edited by ReVoRabbit on Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
OWNER OF REVOMAZE Set 20 ☿
Since February 18 2009
Since February 18 2009
Extreme BU GR BR AG au pu BL R HM OR TI lm AQ TQ MT IN CU GM sa GY BKM SP EM ru PE v2: BU GR BR Marbles: Brain Store MINI CE | Obsession Black Body: BU GR R BL Colored Body: BU GR R BL Black v2: BUpro GR BL | Prototypes BU Obs Mint Peach Jupiter |
Re: R2 Limited Editions
There have always been limited puzzles (popplock, strijbos, roger, berrocal) and there is no need to produce every puzzle in the world in umlimited editions.
BUGRBRAGAUTIPUORLMRBL1BL2GMCUAQINMTTQSAGY ☿
waiting: lite
waiting: lite
Re: R2 Limited Editions
I have one of the first R2, and it has not turned me on to be honest.
How many have been opened todate?
I'm thinking of letting it go...any offers? Can I sell my voyage status too?
I really hate the preorder system.....although I have always got what I ordered from Chris.
I have said this many times before, why can't you sell what you have in stock and not what you are going to make in a couple of years time.
I'm looking forward to Pyropuzzles.
How many have been opened todate?
I'm thinking of letting it go...any offers? Can I sell my voyage status too?
I really hate the preorder system.....although I have always got what I ordered from Chris.
I have said this many times before, why can't you sell what you have in stock and not what you are going to make in a couple of years time.
I'm looking forward to Pyropuzzles.
- a-maze-ing
- Posts: 842
- Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:15 pm
- Location: Netherlands
- ReVoRabbit
- Posts: 1383
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:51 pm
- Location: The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
- Contact:
Re: R2 Limited Editions
selling an item before its manufactured makes complete sense to me. years ahead... okay maybe not. but to sell an item and then deliver it 6 months later... its a concept indigogo and kickstarter have thrived on for years.Killerkel wrote:I have said this many times before, why can't you sell what you have in stock and not what you are going to make in a couple of years time.
OWNER OF REVOMAZE Set 20 ☿
Since February 18 2009
Since February 18 2009
Extreme BU GR BR AG au pu BL R HM OR TI lm AQ TQ MT IN CU GM sa GY BKM SP EM ru PE v2: BU GR BR Marbles: Brain Store MINI CE | Obsession Black Body: BU GR R BL Colored Body: BU GR R BL Black v2: BUpro GR BL | Prototypes BU Obs Mint Peach Jupiter |
Re: R2 Limited Editions
Wil has done a decent job, with me at least, explaining why some of his puzzles are limited. If I had a box to stand on in a Popplock forum I'd make the same complaint. I'd buy parts of his collection from him if offered. I don't believe I've been introduced to Roger yet. Berrocal is deceased and from what I understand used a rather unique method of construction/forging/designing that isn't easily replicated.
I haven't received such explanation from RevoHQ on why anything other than the Hand Made and....one of the Black R1's, are hard-limited as they are (ONLY x number will be made, regardless if there's a number of people interested in more) A price can and should be set to cover the expenses of re-issuing a production run. Sure retire them when it's time to move on, as I believe has occurred with R1's. It hardly mattered though, The normal R1 runs were mostly dried up in the past year.
It's in my best interest that as many people who want to buy one of these is able to buy one of these. It's gimmicks like these that make me wonder how the company is afloat. I'm afraid for the next time one of these comes around, because I have no reason to believe it won't. Haumea has been referenced before. Is it going to be the next "Jewel" of the collection? Will it be so 'limited' that even my thinking about it and planning for it now won't be enough to guarantee it a spot in my collection?
As far as I've seen, it's not a hobby for RevoHQ, it's their income. They've given away a ton of stuff as opposed to selling it. It doesn't matter who I tell about Revomazes right now, they're incapable of getting into it for an indeterminate amount of time. That means they can't be a part of RevoHQ's paychecks, only me and 99 others on this planet can. I don't want two new 'limited' puzzles to come out every few months that literally feels just as much like you're giving a monetary injection to the company as it does you're getting a new puzzle. I can respect that it's their decision to do so but that doesn't mean I can't explain that I think it's a bad idea.
Every production run of everything has been limited by some factor. What's the reason here? Limit it by saying it's exclusive Jet Black/Gold, Anodize it differently and sell it to a larger crowd. Keep the puzzle design.
I haven't received such explanation from RevoHQ on why anything other than the Hand Made and....one of the Black R1's, are hard-limited as they are (ONLY x number will be made, regardless if there's a number of people interested in more) A price can and should be set to cover the expenses of re-issuing a production run. Sure retire them when it's time to move on, as I believe has occurred with R1's. It hardly mattered though, The normal R1 runs were mostly dried up in the past year.
It's in my best interest that as many people who want to buy one of these is able to buy one of these. It's gimmicks like these that make me wonder how the company is afloat. I'm afraid for the next time one of these comes around, because I have no reason to believe it won't. Haumea has been referenced before. Is it going to be the next "Jewel" of the collection? Will it be so 'limited' that even my thinking about it and planning for it now won't be enough to guarantee it a spot in my collection?
As far as I've seen, it's not a hobby for RevoHQ, it's their income. They've given away a ton of stuff as opposed to selling it. It doesn't matter who I tell about Revomazes right now, they're incapable of getting into it for an indeterminate amount of time. That means they can't be a part of RevoHQ's paychecks, only me and 99 others on this planet can. I don't want two new 'limited' puzzles to come out every few months that literally feels just as much like you're giving a monetary injection to the company as it does you're getting a new puzzle. I can respect that it's their decision to do so but that doesn't mean I can't explain that I think it's a bad idea.
Every production run of everything has been limited by some factor. What's the reason here? Limit it by saying it's exclusive Jet Black/Gold, Anodize it differently and sell it to a larger crowd. Keep the puzzle design.
Chyron wrote:Sometimes I get the feeling that someone goes around hiding old Puzzles in RevoHQ.
Re: R2 Limited Editions
Ok so when did you order your mercury ?but to sell an item and then deliver it 6 months later.
Anyone more than a year so far?
Oh only 20 have them.
Don't think you are going to get your Limit editions anytime soon.
But like I have said before Chris has always delivered what I have ordered from him.
So would I paid £250 of a limited edition Yes, am I prepared to wait over a year for it then it's No.
I am going to give it a miss, unless Chris can give me a guarantee that it will be delivered before September 2014.
- 03SVTCobra
- Posts: 1530
- Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:46 pm
- Location: NY
Re: R2 Limited Editions
Yes and they all don't take money until they are ready to ship!Dorothea wrote:There have always been limited puzzles (popplock, strijbos, roger, berrocal) and there is no need to produce every puzzle in the world in umlimited editions.
BU00060 GR00060 BR00060 AG00060 AU00060
R00060 OR00060 LM00060 TI00030 CU00060 AQ00060 IN00060
MT00060 TQ00060 GM HM
Blue Obs Green Obs Black Obs Black Obs V2 Red Obs
R00060 OR00060 LM00060 TI00030 CU00060 AQ00060 IN00060
MT00060 TQ00060 GM HM
Blue Obs Green Obs Black Obs Black Obs V2 Red Obs
- ReVoRabbit
- Posts: 1383
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:51 pm
- Location: The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
- Contact:
Re: R2 Limited Editions
Chyron & Killerkel both make solid arguments. I don't think we will see the LE's/SE's any time soon. I'm not sure we've had to wait more than 6 months for a puzzle, but maybe we have. If you are "that into" this series, then i don't think you'll mind waiting.
I believe these puzzles are for those who desire to help the community as a whole. I'm just disappointed that the likelihood of me continuing to support that has come to an end.
I believe these puzzles are for those who desire to help the community as a whole. I'm just disappointed that the likelihood of me continuing to support that has come to an end.
Last edited by ReVoRabbit on Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
OWNER OF REVOMAZE Set 20 ☿
Since February 18 2009
Since February 18 2009
Extreme BU GR BR AG au pu BL R HM OR TI lm AQ TQ MT IN CU GM sa GY BKM SP EM ru PE v2: BU GR BR Marbles: Brain Store MINI CE | Obsession Black Body: BU GR R BL Colored Body: BU GR R BL Black v2: BUpro GR BL | Prototypes BU Obs Mint Peach Jupiter |
Re: R2 Limited Editions
I think the timing sucks and my first impression was that these were the 2 specials which form part of the voyager status. From reading the status page they are not.
I'm happy with the intended puzzles within voyager as these two lovely creations are way outside my pocket size unless I'm a very very good boy and I work my tatters off for the next two years. By then I'm sure the twenty have been snapped up by those whom better desire them. Sigh! Oh well at least my pipe dream has a pipe in it.
I'm happy with the intended puzzles within voyager as these two lovely creations are way outside my pocket size unless I'm a very very good boy and I work my tatters off for the next two years. By then I'm sure the twenty have been snapped up by those whom better desire them. Sigh! Oh well at least my pipe dream has a pipe in it.
BBloke
Pro Level 3 - BLopen | BL #1580 open
Open #100: AQ | BL | GR | BR | AG | GU | TI | OR | CU | IN | LI | MN
Closed: AU | GY | SA
Ordered: RU
R2 Voyager #100: Mercury 1st Batch (open) | Venus pre-ordered
Pro Level 3 - BLopen | BL #1580 open
Open #100: AQ | BL | GR | BR | AG | GU | TI | OR | CU | IN | LI | MN
Closed: AU | GY | SA
Ordered: RU
R2 Voyager #100: Mercury 1st Batch (open) | Venus pre-ordered